Srila Prabhupada Speaks about his Gaudiya Math Godbrothers

I can understand someone getting a little bewildered about our relationship with Srila Prabhupada’s godbrothers before his letters and conversations were published, but what excuse does anyone have now? Any of Srila Prabhupada’s so-called disciples who still insist on associating with Srila Prabhupada’s godbrothers or godnephews after reading the quotes below are obviously not very sincere or very serious about following Srila Prabhupada’s instructions.

Dear Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Please keep in mind, while reading the quotes below, that Srila Prabhupada has never retracted any of them. Some extremely self motivated people might say that he apologized to his godbrothers on his death bed, but how can this be considered any more than just polite talk, or setting an example for his disciples of how to try and make amends before leaving this material realm?
Also, I have never heard of any tape recording which documents this supposed apology, and it’s not in the VedaBase. Where is the proof?
Even if Srila Prabhupada did apologize to some of his godbrothers, how could this be considered a retraction, especially for the April, 1974 letter to Rupanuga, which is a signed document, and which contains the instruction to all of his disciples, “This is my instruction to you all.” No contradictory instruction that even comes close to this direct, authoritative, signed document has ever been produced.
I can understand someone getting a little bewildered about our relationship with Srila Prabhupada’s godbrothers before his letters and conversations were published, but what excuse does anyone have now? Any of Srila Prabhupada’s so-called disciples who still insist on associating with Srila Prabhupada’s godbrothers or godnephews after reading the quotes below is obviously not very sincere or very serious about following Srila Prabhupada’s instructions.

YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY INTIMATE CONNECTION WITH THEM

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Pradyumna 02/17/68:
“Regarding Bhakti Puri Tirtha Maharaja, they are my God-brothers and should be shown respect. But you should not have any intimate connection with them as they have gone against the orders of my Guru Maharaja.”

NO POSSIBILITY OF COMPROMISE

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Narayana Maharaja 9/30/69:
“Regarding the 92 section case against the Gaudiya Math, I don’t think there is any possibility of compromise. Both the Bhagbazar Party [Sridhar Maharaja's group] and Mayapur party [Tirtha Maharaja's group] have unlawfully usurped the missionary institution of Srila Prabhupada, and whenever they will talk of a compromise, it means another complication.”

MY FOURTH-CLASS GODBROTHERS

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Hayagriva 9/14/70:
“Disturbance is caused by ignorance; where there is no ignorance, there is no disturbance. The four Sannyasis may bark, but still the caravan will pass. There is every evidence that they are influenced by some of my fourth-class Godbrothers.”

THEY WILL BE ENVIOUS

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Yamuna 11/18/70:
“Regarding the Gaudiya Math, our position has nothing to do with them. They cannot do anything and if somebody does something, they will be envious. That is the nature of third class men.”

MY GODBROTHERS GAVE ME ONLY DEPRESSION

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Gurudasa 8/29/72:
“Do not be depressed. All along my godbrothers gave me only depression, repression, compression–but I continued strong in my duty. So never mind there is some discouragement, continue with your work in full enthusiastic Krishna Consciousness attitude of service.”

THEY HAVE ALL BECOME SUDRAS

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Niranjana 5/21/73:
“Our big, big godbrothers in India, they could not preach Lord Gauranga’s name all over India. They are simply inclined to criticize me, that my students call me Prabhupada. They could not do anything practical and tangible. They are satisfied with a temple and a few disciples begging alms for the maintenance of the temple.
“So, we can understand that they have all become sudras. How can they have interest in Bhagavad-gita. Although some of them have been born in brahmana families, but by quality are all sudras.”

GAUDIYA MATH BOOKS SHOULD NOT BE CIRCULATED IN OUR SOCIETY

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Sukadeva 11/14/73:
“Regarding the Gaudiya Math books being circulated there, who is distributing? Who is sending these books? The Gaudiya Math does not sell our books, why we should sell their books. Who has introduced these books? Let me know. These books should not at all be circulated in our Society. Bhakti Vilas Tirtha is very much antagonistic to our society and he has no clear conception of devotional service. He is contaminated. Anyway, who has introduced these books? You say that you would read only one book if that was all that I had written, so you teach others to do like that. You have very good determination.”

THIS IS MY INSTRUCTION TO YOU ALL

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Rupanuga 4/28/74:
“In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted. Actually, he left this world earlier, otherwise he would have continued to live for more years. Still he requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected. So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the acarya is being changed three times a year. Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp. Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya. So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.”

THEIR PROPOSAL FOR COOPERATION IS A MYTH

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to aCUTANANDA 6/8/74:
“You should not write anything to Madhava Maharaja’s camp. You may have talked many things with Mangala Niloy but why write him in black and white. The letter must not be sent. Their policy has been all along to suppress me and take credit for himself. Their proposal for cooperation is a myth. They haven’t done anything which is cooperative. You know in a recent article they managed to write in such a way that Madhava is doing the world movement and we are his subordinate. From the beginning that has been their mentality. So there is no possibility of cooperation with them. Rather you should avoid strictly meeting with them. They are not after preaching but material gain and reputation and adoration. Otherwise why they are non cooperating with me? So no cooperation is possible. Do not think or indulge in loose talks. Be careful always. Let us do the duty of propagation sincerely and seriously on our own principles. Krsna and Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura are our only hope and they and helping us. If anything thing has to be done it is to be talked on the higher level between Madhava Maharaja and myself, but I know his mentality is different and there is no possibility of cooperation.”

SMASHED…ON ACCOUNT OF PERSONAL AMBITIONS

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Karandhara 10/8/74:
“In India some of the important members they have collected huge amounts in the name of the Society and spent it luxuriously. I wanted you all my experienced disciples should manage the whole institution very cleverly without any personal ambition like ordinary materialistic men. The Gaudiya Math institution has become smashed, at least stopped its program of preaching work on account of personal ambitions.”

MY GODBROTHERS ARE CONCERNED WITH POLITICS

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Subala 10/15/74:
“My other godbrothers they are concerned with litigations, politics, and diplomacy, so what is the pracara? As far as I am concerned I have the blessings of my guru maharaj. I do not need anything else. That is how I went to your country, just to try to carry out his order. By his blessings it has come out successful.”

THEY ARE NOT EVEN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING

Srila Prabhupada’s Room Conversation with a Reporter in Johannesburg 10/16/75:
“Krsna sakti vina nahe krsna name pracara: ‘Without Krsna’s special power of attorney, nobody can preach His name.’ Caitanya-caritamrta. So these rascals, Godbrothers, they are envious that… What he has written? Bon Maharaja. Just see what kind of men they are. They are not even ordinary human being. They are envious of me, and what to speak of make a judgment by estimation? They’re envious. Enviousness is immediately disqualification of Vaisnava, immediate. He is not a human being. Paramo nirmatsaranam satam. This Bhagavatam is meant for the person who is completely not envious. That is the beginning. Why a Vaisnava should be envious for anyone? Everyone is working according to his karma. He is trying to rectify him, that ‘Be out of these clutches of karma. You come to bhakti.’ Why he should be envious? Vancha-kalpatarubhyas ca krpa-sindhubhya eva ca. A Vaisnava should be like ocean of mercy to reclaim the fallen souls. That is Vaisnava’s qualification. So Vaisnava should be envious? Just see. So these persons, they are not even human being, what to speak of Vaisnava. Vaisnava cannot be envious. Vaisnava should be: ‘Oh, my Lord’s name is being broadcast. He is getting, giving so much service to make Krsna known.’ That man has appreciated, that ‘All these spiritual leaders, they are deriding. You are the only man… You are… It enthuses us, give us more encouragement, that you are keeping intact, love of Krsna.’ This is an appreciation. Why he should be envious? He should be, rather, very much enthused that ‘This single man is keeping Krsna all over the world.’ And everyone is deriding. Even Gandhi is killing Krsna. Dr. Radhakrishnan is killing. Their only business is to kill Krsna. He is also doing that, our, this Bon Maharaja. He never speaks of Krsna. His rascal, that Institute of Indian Philosophy, nobody goes to [pass] urine there. We see practically. And our temple is always filled up, five hundred men. And he is trying for the last forty years. He is simply planning: ‘This will be playground. This will be this ground. This will be this ground.’ And it is becoming jungle. Still, he is so envious, black snake. So one circular letter should be issued to all our center, that ‘Any Bon Maharaja or anyone, his representative, should not be received.’ They are envious. Yes. Quoting that. We have got several complaints like that. Satsvarupa also complained. Sometimes our order was cancelled by Bon Maharaja’s propaganda.”

IN THE GAUDIYA MATH POLITICS IS STILL GOING ON

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Gurukrpa, 9/30/75:
“Why is there this politics? This is not good. If politics come, then the preaching will be stopped. That is the difficulty. As soon as politics come, everything is spoiled. In the Gaudiya Math the politics is still going on. My Guru Maharaja left in 1936, and now it is 1976, so after 40 years the litigation is still going on. Do not come to this.”

PLEASE AVOID MY GODBROTHERS

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Visvakarma, 11/9/75:
“So I have now issued orders that all my disciples should avoid all of my godbrothers. They should not have any dealings with them nor even correspondence, nor should they give them any of my books or should they purchase any of their books, neither should you visit any of their temples. Please avoid them.”

THEY ARE DRESSING LIKE VAISNAVA, AND THEY ARE SO ENVIOUS

Srila Prabhupada’s Room Conversation in Bombay 1/8/77:
“There are similarly men also. Unnecessarily they are envious, offensive, unnecessary. They cannot tolerate others’ opulence. Just like our Godbrothers. They are envious. What I have done to them? I am doing my business, trying to serve my Guru Maharaja. But they are envious because I am so opulent. I have got so much fame, so many influence, so much influence all over the world. Everyone is praising me about… That is ignorance. And this is regrettable because they are posing themselves as Vaisnava. Ordinary man can do that, but they are dressing like Vaisnava, and they are so envious. That Tirtha Maharaja, unnecessarily he was envious, whole life fighting, fighting, fighting in the court and died. Simply planning.”

THESE PEOPLE ARE ENVIOUS

Srila Prabhupada’s Room Conversation in Vrindaban 5/24/77:
“If somebody thinks, ‘Oh, here is a snake with jewel. Let me embrace him, no, no, no, it is very ferocious. Even it is jewel there, it is ferocious. Similarly, these people are envious. Although they have become so-called Vaisnava, they are ferocious. They have not acquired the qualification of Vaisnava. Simply vesopidin(?), by dress.”
“[Krishna consciousness] is simple for the simple, but it is very hard for the crooked.” (Initiation lecture by Srila Prabhupada, Boston 12/26/69)
The “simple” disciple of Srila Prabhupada will simply follow his or her spiritual master’s instructions, and refuse to associate with any of Srila Prabhupada’s godbrothers or godnephews. The “crooked” disciple, on the other hand, finds so many excuses to try and rationalize such forbidden association.
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

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Madhu Pandit Dasa leacture: Gems of Spiritual Wisdom

Hare Krishna, we will start with:

ya nisa sarva-bhutanam tasyam jagarti samyami yasyam jagrati bhutani sa nisa pasyato muneh
Bhagavad-gita (2.69)

What is night for all human beings in the time for awakening for the self control. And the time of awareness for all beings is night for introspective sage.
Two classes of intelligent men, one is intelligent in material activities for sense gratification. The other is introspective and awaken to cultivation of  self-realization.
Activities of introspective sage or thoughtful men are night for persons materially absorbed. Materialistic persons remain in sleep in such a night due to ignorance of self-realization.
Introspective sage alert in the night of materialistic men, the sage feels transcendental pleasure with gradual advancement of spiritual culture.
There is the man with materialistic activities being sleep to self-realization dreams of rights of sense pleasure feeling sometimes happy sometimes disgusted in a sleeping condition.
Introspective man is always indifferent to materialistic happiness and distress. He goes on with self-realization activities undisturbed by materialistic reactions so you want just elaboration on this?
What is night for all beings is the time for awakening for self control. The time of awakening for all human beings is the night for introspective sage.
Now here day and night is not necessarily meaning day and night like time day and night. because the previous, see the verses which as a strong wind swings away boat on the water even one of the senses on which mind focuses can carry away a man’s intelligence therefore oh, mighty armed, one whose senses are restrained from their objects is certainly of steady intelligence. For basically it’s a different lifestyle.

So what is night for one person is day for another person his all activities is based on how to enjoy the senses. How to enjoy the bodily pleasures bodily relations. But this energy is going there, all his activities.
That kind of activity is not known to the sage. The sage’s world is one, his world is not centered around the body, and his world is centered serving the supreme spirit. So his activities are activities which are not anchored. See the soul is there. If the soul is focused in the body, you are in here you are trapped here.
Through the thought if the soul is transferred to Krishna then you are there. You are there where your thoughts are. You understand. You are forgetting, for instance where you are now? You are in my talk. At that time you are not thinking of your body. Your attention is here, you are not conscious of your body. You are not conscious of your looks. You are not conscious of, you know various organs of body.
You are not that is lying on its own just it is left aside as much as the floor on which you are sitting. The floor is also, you are not identifying at that time. So it is like, where your thoughts is that where you live. So the sages, they are always living in Krishna’s service, they are living in the absolute. They are living connected to infinite.
The atma can neither be connected to infinite nor can be connected to the finite, this body is finite.  So wherever you are connected that, that all those experiences, you get a limited experience you get karmic experience this body is governed by karma, so you have to, you will experience a limitations of all karma.
But if your consciousness is lifted to Krishna, then you become liberated. So what is night for all beings is the time for awakening for the self control. And the time of awakening for all beings is the night for introspective sage. That means where they are active, another aspect of this is, the sage is, they do not associate with people who are involved in this way of life. That is night, that is day for them and that is night for me, I am not there.
In the night what happens you take rest. Night,  so you are aware from that. So similarly the meaning aware from normal life. Similarly what is normal for them is abnormal for me. What is abnormal for me is normal for them.
The life of sense enjoyment is abnormal form as a sage. But for them its normal. When you lead a life of a devotional service, those people that those who are in that would they think these are abnormal people. We are hearing no! We are seeing no! and those who are practicing Krishna consciousness they are thinking they are all abnormal. So what is day for me is night for you and what is night for you is day for me. That’s what Krishna is

Q: Prabhu, that introspective stage, so he doesn’t introduce so this preaching work, does it mean contradictory?
Madhu Pandit: No, he doesn’t live there, he doesn’t leave their activities preaching, means he takes his consciousness to, to awaken them. He wants to make his night also today he wants to reverse his day and night. That is preaching. Accha, then another interesting thing, which is the sage feels transcendental pleasure, gradual advancement of spiritual culture, there is man in materialistic activities. Say we are all culturing something. For instance education, nothing but gradually culturing. Only by culturing, culturing means what? Little by little, little by little its culturing. That is culturing, not overnight. Little by little it is added just you did you read, learn how to read and write.
Not overnight you are cultured little by little ;little by little. Now its part of you, you can just take a book and read. But there are so many people who can’t read why? They didn’t put themselves to that mental culture understand. So culturing. So all things in life are achieved by culturing not overnight. That is why impatient people never achieve anything. They want everything next moment, they want everything tomorrow. But they don’t think that what I have today it is all because of culturing.
Not of, I didn’t voluntarily because environment pushed me. My father and mother pushed me in the school, I didn’t know what effect I will get. They told me go to school, I went to school and the result is I got cultured I could read, I could think, isn’t it? But while going to school you did not know those, this is the goal.
So you have to be cultured that you will have remained so that you got things to that system that is power of that system. Similarly devotional service is also is culturing. Not all of us are. So a sage is spending his time in culturing. Not all of us are. So a sage is spending no time in culturing his mind in spiritual life. Step by step, how to give up sense gratification, culturing.
Where as the man in material activities being a sleep to self realization, dreams of varieties of sense pleasure. Feeling sometimes happy, sometimes distressed in his sleeping condition. So actually Prabhupada what he is explained is that, the living entities are all in sleeping condition of this material world and the sense gratificatory activities is at dream like state.
That is why this is not a metaphor. It is a fact, it is a dream-like activity. It is dreamlike, that’s why you have to give up your body. No thing is permanent. Anything and everything and everything you know of now will disappear after few years. Isn’t it. So then where is it; that that sense of identity which I have is all a dream.
Just like in the cinema theatre, you sit in the seat you watch the screen and actually what is going on is only display of light parties, isn’t it? What is on the screen? Is there a world there? Light patches, play of there. Then what is there? Light patches, play of light of light patches. You agree.
That’s all that is, what is this book. What’s actually is there? On white paper and play of ink right. What’s actually there. Similarly theatre, what is actually there is light patches. Who is reading a word out of it? we are reading a word out of it, hero, heroine, plot, this thing, that thing, that our mind is moving that in that world hero’s world, heroine’s world, and villain’s world.
Going on this story that story all these things we are created in the world. Correct. So we can see say that this person is dreaming. Dreaming the cinema, isn’t it? He is dreaming the cinema. But even though he is dreaming the cinema he can because of the mind and everything that the lord has given imagination, he can experience, nacas. He can experience relationships, he can experience you know.
Sukha dukha everything in the movie also isn’t? especially I have seen, sometimes ladies sit and they cried, they cried, they cried, because they are so ignorant they really become lost in that and sometimes bad is happening there it is exactly equal to happening to themselves and if some sad seen is there there is fear, anxiety, the character in the screen he is in the anxiety, you are in anxiety.
Horror scenes, fear, sex, excitement. Just look at that what a screen can produce, they can bring out sex in you they bring out fear in you and they can bring out anxiety in you and once that comes out it is non-different than a real thing.
It is not different from real thing. Real thing also suppose there is a fear, same quality fear come in the dream also. You understand. A man is living for some good feelings. That’s it, some good feelings he doesn’t want fear. He doesn’t want anxiety.
He doesn’t want temporariness. He wants permanentness. He wants loving relation, sweat relationships. Man wants all those things. So some movies are producing that experience some movies are producing that experience some movies are producing some other effect. Some other effect….that’s our life is exactly like this.
Only we are so much lost, you have no idea that what is the kind of theatre you are sitting. What seat you are sitting in. what your original form is. Nothing you know. Just like I told some ladies are lost in the movies, right?
So self-realization means to wake-up the, wake-up this cinema. Please understand one thing when we say this materialistic world is illusion. One should understand that material energy is not illusion.
Projector is not an illusion. Light patch is not an illusion. They are all truths. Similarly the matter is truth, Krishna’s energy. But the way it plays around & when you interact with it, what you create of it in your mind that means illusion.
Your perceptions are illusion. So what is illusion? The way you use is the way you read the book what should take in it, that is illusion. The way you see the light patches, that is illusion. So, how to wake up? Because I can see the screen, just like the screen it is. I take one body it is growing; I have no control over it.
Do you have any control how the projector works? You don’t know. Only the projector is running, film is made tror.. it will run & you are just identifying. You just identifying with the character. Since you have identified with the character, that character’s suppose said feeling also you will experience as your feeling. So most of the freewill here is also illusory.
So Krishna says in Bhagavad-Gita “prakrite kriyamanani gunai karmani sarvasah, ahankara vimudatma kartaham iti manyate”. “Prakrite kriyamanani gunai karmani sarvasah”. Everything is carried out by material nature.
Three modes of material nature “Prakrite kriyamanani gunai karmani sarvasah, ahankara vimudatma kartaham iti manyate”. Ahankara, false ego out of false ego, I think I am doing. Out of false ego, I am thinking. What is that false ego? Are you are Mr so & so sitting in the theatre, which is in majestic. Sitting in that you will see you are Mr. so & so what you have created a false ego.
I am Amitabh Bacchan. And Ahankara vimudatma karatham iti manyate. What Amitabh Bacchan is doing, I am thinking I am doing (Laugh). So therefore “Prakrite Kriyamanani gunai karmani sarvasah ahankara vimudatma kartaham iti manyate.
Go to 13th chapter “Nature”, Text No 21

Karyaakaranakartrutve hetuh prakrutiruchyate|
Purusah sukadukanam boktrutve heturuchyate

Nature is said to be the cause of all material causes & effects. Projector, light patches, that is they are the causes of what is going on the screen, not you. What are you? You are sitting in the theatre where the living entities are cause of various suffering and enjoyments.
You are seeing that sufferings and enjoyments are created by you. In the screen there is suffering & enjoyment because in the screen there is no real person. So where is suffering & enjoyments caused by us? Because we have identifying with that world…
Next verse: The living entity in the material nature thus follows a life, enjoying the three modes of nature. This is due to his association with that material nature.
Thus he mean should good and evil among various species. Yet in this body, there is another transcendental enjoyer who is the lord, the supreme proprietor & who exists as overseer & permitter & who is known as the Supersoul. One who understand the philosophy concerning material nature, living entity & interaction of modes of nature is sure to attain liberation.
He will not take birth here again, regardless of his present position. O chief of Bharatas! Whatever you see in existence, both the moving and non moving is only combination of field of activities & the knower of the field. Now the example I gave you of the screen, the cinema is the observer.
It is the crude example because man always imitates nature in a very crude way. Just like the way robot. That they compared to a human it cannot, crude. Similarly too many things cannot be drawn from this analogy of screen, why this is not interacting/ Krishna has created a dream where it is interacting.
You understand we are all heroes in the screen. And you are sitting in the theatre & then you are also given an opportunity to take a decision.
No you see, ordinary cinema see you can’t interact you have to simply identify with what is going on. But here some rules are given how to interact, if you interact what will happen? Isn’t it? So it is interacting.
They made computer games, ha.. you can sit on the driving wheel & when the screen is there, ru ru.. another car is coming. Roo roo ru ru.. it’s a turning right? First you are thinking it is my car. First there is the identification right.
But you are turning the car. Now there is the link here between when turn right that car also turns right. But actually you are not turning that car.
You understand. You are not turning that car. It’s a mechanism you are turning here. Similarly you are sitting in the theatre & you are also desiring & immediately Paramatma is translating that there.
Now I want to talk, now I want to lift my hand. It is by the mercy of paramatma this hand is lifting. I am not this hand. I am not this body, the whole body is in the screen. But I am desiring, Paramatma is translating & because every time I want to lift, I lift. Then Paramatma is constantly doing it.
So I am thinking I am lifting (laugh). Isn’t ha! Illusion is created. I am the body. I want to lift, I can lift. But he doesn’t see. Ok! So you ask him. How did you lift? Where did the command go, where did it go. Who ordered? How did it happen? Nobody has found answer. Ha! Can you lift that telephone?
It will rise up. No isn’t it? It is not given within the mechanical set up by Krishna, Paramatma. So like this so much false association is there, we consider that as reality. Just like another example I gave: you can train an animal let us say there is a cage. In the cage there in one red platform, there is one green platform.
Some rats & some mice & it is allowed to starve, no food is given. When it jumps on the red platform, drop one piece of bread. It goes and falls. When it jumps on green platform, blue platform, yellow platform, nothing is found. Red platform it will find. In few days the animal will learn that by pressing the red platform I get food. Now you are the one who is dropping food.
The rat doesn’t see all these things. The rat kingdom, the law will be made if any body who stands on the venue stand on red platform, bread is created. Because it is very consistent. Quick timing, tuck! But who is making it consistent? It’s you. Similarly we say when we drop this, it falls.
Law of gravitation. But that law is made by God. It is the permanently made law for the material world. Similarly I have created a permanent law in the rat world. Who has orderly arranged that? I have arranged that. Krishna has arranged all these material laws to be consistent.
He is the greatest physist, greatest chemist, he is the greatest mathematician. Everything greatest, greatest artist. Somebody is creating a nice movie. Creative director: Spielberg, Steven Spielberg, heavy award earned.
Imagine what award we should give to Krishna, what a director! The whole universe. The whole universe is a movie. Inside that movie he creates sub movie & everybody prizes, forgetting that you yourself in the movie is controlled by Krishna.
Creative director is Krishna, there is no metaphor. These are truths, truth. Why it is truth? Because what strikes? What should strike you is it’s a fact, it is not temporary, this body is temporary. I am thinking that I am this body that is wrong. How can I be this body? This body it should always be there.
My childhood body is gone, this body will go away. Budda, it will become that day, body will be dead. Where am I, where am I. I cannot be this. Our biggest problem is in the material world. What we are using we become that, we are using the body, we take to think I am the body.
That is why sense of ownership of this body should be given up. That is a value of renunciation, culturing a renunciation. Why because in reality nothing is yours. You are only a user of these things. It is taken back from you at the time of death.
So if you look at it you say something I can say its my own its going to be always with me. You will be shown, there is nothing except yourself. Atma & the Paramatma, the Lord.

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ISKCON won the debate againest Christian Bigots in Poland

There was a case of nuns in a court in Warsaw,  Poland against ISKCON.

Noting that the ISKCON is spreading it's activities and gaining followers in Poland , a nun filed a case before a Judicial Magistrate praying that ISKCON should be banned, because it's followers are glorifying a Character called Krishna 'Who was loose in morals, having married 16,000 Gopikas'.

When the case came up for hearing the ISKCON defendant requested the Judge to ask the nun to repeat the oath she has taken when she has ordained as a nun.

The Judge asked the Nun to recite the Oath loudly. She would not.

ISKCON man asked the Judge whether he could read it out for the nun.

The Judge said go ahead.

The pledge was in effect that 'she (nun) is married to Jesus Christ' .

ISKCON man said "Your Lordship! Lord Krishna is alleged to have 'married' 16,000 women. There are more than a million nuns who assert that they are married to Jesus Christ. Between the two, Krishna and the nun, who are of loose characters".

The Judge dismissed the case and allowed ISKCON to go its way.

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KPCC chief is misleading people: ISKCON

 

BANGALORE: ISKCON Bangalore President Madhu Pandit Das accused former KPCC working president D K Shivakumar of misleading people by highlighting only certain portions of the Legislative House committee report, favourable to his line of argument. In a press release, Das said Shivakumar did not present the complete picture on the issue during his recent press conference. Das alleged that the MLA did not present relevant documentary evidences of various officials and departments, deliberations and reasoning that led the committee to give a clean chit to ISKCON and the Akshaya Patra Foundation (APF). Das stated that even the committee agreed that showing poor children's photo and video CD in India and abroad for collecting funds damaged the reputation of the country and stated that evidences presented before the committee concluded that though the APF raised funds from foreign countries, there was no evidence that the foundation acted to bring discredit to the country.While producing a RTI reply that the department had not given permission to collect funds to any NGOs, including the APF and ISKCON from the Human Resources Department, Das alleged that Shivakumar suppressed the written communication of the government officials permitting the APF to collect funds that was presented in front of the House committee. "The written communication states that as per the guidelines of the Government of India, it is not wrong for the APF to raise donations. The government directed the concerned parties not to collect donations from the parents of the beneficiaries and we have not done that. Moreover the guidelines of the Revised National Programme of Nutritional Support to Primary Education 2004, Clause 44 states that voluntary community support for Midday meal is to be encouraged," Das added. He also stated that the Principal Secretary of education department too stated that if the NGOs raised funds from other sources within the framework of the law, there was no need for permission from the government.

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IRM v GBC & Gaudiya Math- MADHU PANDIT DAS

The GBC have submitted their affidavit-in-opposition to the IRM petition, which itself was posted in full in our court update No.2 The GBC were supposed to have submitted their affidavit by the 16th April, after which we were given 2 weeks to reply. Due to the GBC affidavit being submitted late, the next court hearing to hear their affidavit-in-opposition and our reply to this, will be on June 12th.

In an unprecedented move, the GBC reply rather than tackle our arguments and evidences head on, have instead gone for appeals to historical tradition and relied on the help of the Gaudiya Matha. They have presented as one of their main pieces of evidence, a letter which they have managed to get signed by all 20 or so odd Gaudiya Matha missions currently existing in West Bengal.

Such cosy co-operation makes a mockery of the GBC attempts to portray the IRM as simply being another 'camp' along with the Gaudiya Matha, that is attacking ISKCON. Rather as this action has shown, it is clear that there are only 2 'camps' - the 'Prabhupada is the acarya' camp of the IRM, and the 'Prabhupada substitute' camp headed by the GBC, Gaudiya Matha, and dozens of many other mayavadi and Hindu groups. It demonstrates that the GBC's so-called opposition to the Gaudiya Matha is simply is one based on competition for men and money, but when it comes to philosophy and principle, and in particular their desire to keep Srila Prabhupada substituted with inferior 'physical body' versions, they are two peas in the pod. I shall quote here from paragraph 10 of the GBC's affidavit-in-opposition:

"The Guru Parampara tradition and system is that initiations (diksas) are granted by a spiritual master during his natural lifetime to disciples.

After the physical departure or demise of such a guru, one of more of his disciples in turn are authorised to give initiations to new disciples and thus become spiritual masters. This system is authorised not only by sastras but by all Acharyas. For example, the "gaudiya math" was established by His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, but after his physical demise Tridandi B.V. Puri Goswami Maharaj, who is an initiated disciple of Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, is at present an initiating acharya of Sree Krishna Chaitanya Mission. This is the standard system of Vaishnava line of Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya mahaprabhu. In this connection, I shall rely on various certificates given by the old and established Vaisnava Institutions, copies whereof are collectively annexed hereto and marked with the letter "A"."
(Paragraph 10, GBC Affidavit-in-opposition)

To illustrate this new level of love and co-operation, we have appended one such letter supplied to ISKCON by the Gaudiya Matha of the late Bon Maharaja, at the end of this posting. (All the letters are the same with just the names of the various Gaudiya Matha personalities changed).

Please note that in presenting this evidence, the GBC are validating that the present Gaudiya Matha are in the parampara and are following the standard system in the vaishnava line of Lord Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. That they are in effect a bona fide branch of the disciplic succession just as ISKCON are.

We would ask the readers to keep this in mind the next time the ISKCON authorities 'warn' them to stay away from the 'poison' of the Gaudiya Matha, and also when they ban various Gaudiya Matha leaders from even visiting ISKCON temples for taking darshan. Indeed this new era of love and co-operation between ISKCON and the Gaudiya Matha should accelerate the mass exodus and defections from ISKCON to the Gaudiya Matha that have taken place since the physical departure of Srila Prabhupada. The irony is that the ISKCON propaganda has always been that it is the 'ritviks' that are driving people to the Gaudiya Matha. Now the truth has been revealed. ISKCON have validated the Gaudiya Matha as a bona fide organisation, worthy of shelter for ISKCON devotees,and one from whom they are desperate to seek assistance for their most important court case.

Indeed this new liberality and inclusiveness towards other groups is not restricted to the Gaudiya Matha. In a spirit of generosity and a sudden new-found humility, the GBC has decided to endorse virtually every Hindu and mayavadi group in India:

"On the contrary, I respectfully submit that what has been presented by the plaintiffs, as the Posthumous Ritvik Doctrine is in utter contradiction with all other established Vedic, vaishnava and Indian religious and philosophical systems and has therefore been rejected and declared a dangerous philosophical deviation by the GBC body."
(GBC affidavit-in-opposition, paragraph 24, emphasis added)

It seems after years of telling us that ISKCON was the ONLY way to salvation, as soon as their backs against the wall, the GBC will ditch any principles it has, in a mad struggle for survival. We also see how they have justified their rejection of the IRM stance by taking guidance from these outside groups, instead of basing it solely on the instructions of Srila Prabhupada, as the IRM has done.

Of course the GBC may try and weasel out of the above embarrassing situation by saying that they are willing to take help from anyone, no matter how bogus they are, simply as an expedience measure to curry favour with the Judge. We heard the same line of argumentation to justify portraying Srila Prabhupada as a 'hired hand' of ISKCON, who was given pencils and paper to write his books, in the BBT case against Hamsaduta.

Fortunately such unprincipled arguments did not work then, and they won't work here either, for the courts are concerned with truth and integrity, not expedient humbug. And the ambivalent and hypocritical attitude of the GBC towards the Gaudiya Matha right up until the present day, has been detailed with evidence in our reply, and we shall see then just how seriously the judge will take ISKCON's offering evidence from the Gaudiya Matha.

Your servant
Madhu Pandit Das
(Please look out for more court updates, as and when we can supply the information)

Sree Sree Gaur Gadadharaya Namah Founder-Acharya : Tridandi Swami Srimad Rasananda Bon Maharaj Sree Sree Gaur Gadadhara Ashram Sree Mayapur, P.O. - Sree Mayapur, Dist. : Nadia, Pin - 741313 To Whom It May Concern The Sree Sree Gaur Gadadhar Ashram is a member of the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya-Saraswata Vaisnava Disciplic Succession also known as Guru-Parampara.  We are coming in the disciplic line of Lord Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. It is our Guru Parampara tradition and system that initiations (diksas) are granted by a spiritual master during his natural lifetime to disciples. After the physical departure or demise of the spiritual master one or more of his disciples in turn are then authorized to give initiations to new disciples and thus become spiritual masters. This is the system authorized by sastra and our previous Acharyas. For example, the Gaudiya matha was established by by His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Thakur Prabhupada. In our institution the founder is Sri Srimad Rasananda Bon Maharaj who is an initiated disciple of Om Visnupada Srila Bhakti Hriday Bon Maharaj. Sri Srimad Rasananda Bon Maharaj is the initiating Acharya on behalf of our institution. This is the standard system of our spiritual line. There is no precedence of any other system and particularly no system whereby a guru continues to accept disciples by accepting them after his physical demise through a ritvik representative. This system doesn't exist in our Disciplic Succession. The whole concept of disciplic succession is that one generation of disciples succeed the previous generation of disciples and in this way perpetually keep the disciplic succession current. Our institution doesn't agree to any system whereby a former spiritual master is said to be the diksa guru (initiating spiritual master) of a disciple except those disciples who are initiated during the physical presence of the spiritual master in the manner approved by him. Yours truly, (Sign of Sri Srimad Rasananda Bon Maharaj) Sri Srimad Rasananda Bon Maharaj Sree Sree Gaur Gadadhar Ashram, Sridham Mayapur, Nadia,

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ISKCON letter exposed

Letter to: Visvakarma
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Bombay
10 January, 1976
76-01-10
Toronto

My dear Viswakarma,

Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you for your undated letter.


Yes, it is the mercy of Krishna that we have got such an important building in Toronto. It is a top-most triumph. If you can fix up a neon sign always moving with the maha-mantra Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, that will be a great achievement. The sign can be on from evening to mid-night, that will be the proper utilization of such an ideal building and location. Christianity is now declining, therefore they are having to sell all their churches to us. Because they have got no clear idea of God, people are not satisfied with them. But we can explain what God is, so people are appreciating more and more our Movement. Now by Krishna's grace you have a beautiful Temple, use it to preach very vigorously. If you all strictly follow the principles and chant sixteen rounds, your spiritual strength will be insured, and our Movement will become increasingly prominent.

I accept the recommended devotees as my initiated disciples. Their spiritual names are:
Errol Lewis—Ugresa dasa
Craig Harper—Asuramarjara dasa
Subash Batra—SubhaVilasa dasa
Asha Batra—Ashalata dasi
Now you have to hold a fire ceremony. Instruct everyone to faithfully chant 16 rounds and follow the regulative principles. Teach them by your personal example.

Regarding Bon Maharaja, in the future he should be completely avoided. We shall have no further connection with him.

Enclosed is a letter to SubhaVilasa which you may please deliver to him.

I hope this meets you in the best of health.

Your ever well-wisher,
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

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